this is a brainstorm so it's gonna be all over the place. if the big bang happened 20+billion years ago, and we can see as far back (since it takes years for light to get from star to star, and billion years galaxy to galaxy) as 13billion years/our moons width, so a tunnel 13billion long, our moon wide then why don't we have proof of other life? we're talking odds of 1planet : BILLIONS of galaxies, TRILLIONS of planets...

that's also BILLIONS of years for other life to get satellites in orbit, and we haven't ran into a single one :puzzled: voyager 1 has been 9.87 billion miles away (or 15ish lightyears). surely if another lifeform made one it could reach at least the same distance, so thats nearly 20 billion miles of space 30ish light (i doubt that's far enough at all, but still). are we the only planet that has life smart enough to send stuff into space? the ONLY planet out of several BILLION possibly trillion? how is it possible that as far as we know, we're the only species that can accomplish that out of an infinite space of darkness? 1:1,000,000,000, we see people win the lotto with 1:1,000,000 in a matter of months, and we haven't ran into another life in the number of years we've been around.

:fish: mankind didn't just pop out of thin air because of a 'big bang' :paper:

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Couple key things to consider:

The farther away you look, the farther into the past you look. It's possible we have looked in the right place, and there is advanced life where we are looking, but the evidence (radio transmissions or whatever) are not here yet.

Scientists are just now discovering planets. I think it was about a year ago that they discovered a planet 3 times the size of earth only about 40 light years away. Near Earth (orbits withing the solar system) asteroids the size of big buildings are still being discovered. We simply do not have the tech necessary to "see" things like satellites in other solar systems.

Detecting other life, as far as I know, pretty much relies on us detecting some kind of radio transmission. One that is strong enough to be separated from background noise, and in some kind of organized patter that can be identified as non-natural. Even if we somehow knew a planet had intelligent advanced life that used radio waves, unless they were trying to send us a message and were relatively close I don't think we could detect them.

Assuming there was some "beginning", ie the big bang, someone has to be first. Why not us?

Matter in space is dispersed ove GREAT distances. We are an anamoly. IMHO the chances of two sentient species living in close enough proximity in the same narrow band of time is probably pretty darn close to 0.

We can't be alone. Impossible.

I also believe we exist in a line of multiple dimensions.

We can't be alone. Impossible.

I also believe we exist in a line of multiple dimensions.

so shane could be your brother in another dimension :rotflmao:

this is a brainstorm so it's gonna be all over the place. if the big bang happened 20+billion years ago, and we can see as far back (since it takes years for light to get from star to star, and billion years galaxy to galaxy) as 13billion years/our moons width, so a tunnel 13billion long, our moon wide then why don't we have proof of other life? we're talking odds of 1planet : BILLIONS of galaxies, TRILLIONS of planets...

that's also BILLIONS of years for other life to get satellites in orbit, and we haven't ran into a single one :puzzled: voyager 1 has been 9.87 billion miles away (or 15ish lightyears). surely if another lifeform made one it could reach at least the same distance, so thats nearly 20 billion miles of space 30ish light (i doubt that's far enough at all, but still). are we the only planet that has life smart enough to send stuff into space? the ONLY planet out of several BILLION possibly trillion? how is it possible that as far as we know, we're the only species that can accomplish that out of an infinite space of darkness? 1:1,000,000,000, we see people win the lotto with 1:1,000,000 in a matter of months, and we haven't ran into another life in the number of years we've been around.

:fish: mankind didn't just pop out of thin air because of a 'big bang' :paper:

Another alien satellite could pass within 6 meters of Voyager I or II and we'd never know, it's not like it sends back real time data of what's going on in every direction... I doubt it sends any data back anymore other than an occasional chirp to say it's alive, and that takes days/weeks to reach us by now. That said even if that never happens, which I doubt it would, space is virtually infinite, the chance of two satellites meeting up billions of miles in space is the same chance that two earthlings with laser pointers will point them in the sky at the same time at the exact same point... trillions to one, if not more...closer to the chance of winning every lottery in the nation every day for your entire lifetime.

so shane could be your brother in another dimension :rotflmao:

Or a girl I banged.:jump:

I thought we agreed to keep moms out of this? :furious:

Lets stay on topic people. :nono:

Lets stay on topic people. :nono:

Sorry. :D



The Big Bang may have occurred billions of times throughout the incomprehensible time-line of space. And apparently exactly the same as the previous. With mankind being the wild card because of our unique ability to choose our own fate.

So in theory, What you've done in your entire life, you might have done over and over again over trillions upon trillions of eons.

We're still in the expanding phase, but in a trillion or more years, it'll start to shrink again towards the great reset.

But that's all theory.:jump:

Sorry. :D



The Big Bang may have occurred billions of times throughout the incomprehensible time-line of space. And apparently exactly the same as the previous. With mankind being the wild card because of our unique ability to choose our own fate.

So in theory, What you've done in your entire life, you might have done over and over again over trillions upon trillions of eons.

We're still in the expanding phase, but in a trillion or more years, it'll start to shrink again towards the great reset.

But that's all theory.:jump:


so... basically the giant 2-stroke theory with a side order of reincarnation?? :clapping::clapping::clapping:

Sorry. :D



The Big Bang may have occurred billions of times throughout the incomprehensible time-line of space. And apparently exactly the same as the previous. With mankind being the wild card because of our unique ability to choose our own fate.

So in theory, What you've done in your entire life, you might have done over and over again over trillions upon trillions of eons.

We're still in the expanding phase, but in a trillion or more years, it'll start to shrink again towards the great reset.

But that's all theory.:jump:

The universe can't shrink if it keeps expanding faster and faster. They oscillating universe theory is all but disproven.

The universe can't shrink if it keeps expanding faster and faster. They oscillating universe theory is all but disproven.

God has his finger on the rewind button.

I am certain that aliens have ventured to earth.

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I agree