Shower Heads

All brands have absolute shit to very nice models. I have a higher end Moen valve and trim in my shower. It's wall mounted and works very well. The 80gal w/h I installed was the finishing touch.

PF sells decent stuff. Their Canadian listed products seem to be superior to their non dual listed products. Go to a plumbing supply vendor like Ferguson to pick out some nice product. Shit at HD and Lowes is garbage.

Yeah I'll go with my plumber's advice, who's been doing it since the 70s, over someone on the internets.

Im going by my experience. Thus far we've built 400+ apartments and condos in Canada, over 3,000 workforce housing units for ND and 484 workforce housing units for Canada. All PF, zero issues. The only issue we had in Canada was galvanic corrosion at three material changes at water heaters.

You really lined up the facts and figures there.

When I first bought the house, I put all Kohler in except one Moen in a shower stall. After 20 years, I have replaced that Moen valve but the Kohlers are all fine. Moen gave me the replacement free, but it was still a pain changing it, compared to no issues with Kohler.

For shower heads I use handhelds w/ massage and no flow restricters.

Jays89YJ said:

Im going by my experience. Thus far we've built 400+ apartments and condos in Canada, over 3,000 workforce housing units for ND and 484 workforce housing units for Canada. All PF, zero issues. The only issue we had in Canada was galvanic corrosion at three material changes at water heaters.

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Any fixture will last a few years.

RandyMolson said:

Any fixture will last a few years.

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The Moens specified by the military in Ft. Lewis lasted less than six months. Turned out to be a bad washer from Moen. Moen had to pay plumbers to replace hundreds of washers. What a CF.

grigsby said:

You will want a hand held head if for nothing else but as a handy way of cleaning the shower

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Here's one made by Pfister... imagine calling the company, and the guy with that name answers the phone, "This is Mister Pfister, may I help you?"

grigsby said:

You will want a hand held head if for nothing else but as a handy way of cleaning the shower

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I use it for rinsing under my sack.

Price Pfister is junk. Both apron valves are PF and both leak. Tried to replace the master with what should have been the same part, but wasn't. Won't even accept the longer stems or universal seats and seals. There was one house my parents bought with Moen everything (builder quality) and I don't remember any problems or any of my friends or neighbors having problems. I thought about getting Delta, but after I couldn't find matching parts and can't even find a plumbing supply house that carries anything Delta, and them the plumber telling me it was junk, I decided against it. As for shower heads, bought some $45 5-position handheld that is made mostly of plastic an works about as well as the $5 one I got at Wally World when the previous outrageously-priced mastu-head fell apart. "it gets in my buttcheeks better"

Delta used to make excellent stuff, but lately their quality has gone downhill. I have a Delta kitchen faucet that I had to replace at one year in (the swivel seized up); they sent me a new one at no charge via FedEx overnight, but it was still a pain. The next one will be a Moen or something else.

C5inAZ said:

I use it for rinsing under my sack.

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should have installed an under carriage spray bar

stig said:

The ladies like them for shaving and masterbation.

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Make it rain on them hoes..