Time.What is the drawback to doing it myself then handing it to a designer for review and revision?
My dimensions, at this point, aren't intended for use as plans that a builder will use. They're for gauging the space while I revise the layout. It's been a while since I took drafting, but I actually do remember how to dimension things in a somewhat appropriate manner.
Swap half bath and pantry areas and resize accordingly. Pantry would be just as usable to the kitchen, but half bath would be out closer to living area. You can use that same stack off the half bath for the shared bath upstairs.In this one, I tried having the steps make an L, across the hallway to open up a little more space in the kitchen. That would mean that the hall has a 7ft ceiling as opposed to 9'6" around the rest of the house. Kitchen has a more traditional U shape to it. Would probably rearrange the stove/sink/fridge a bit, but you get the idea. Master bath is still within the 28x40 basement for ease of water flow. Didn't bother drawing the closet structure. Suffice to say there would be something there. Laundry would share the roof over the planned screened porch.
Don't like the proximity of the half bath to the kitchen.
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So you're saying I'd save time having a designer do their thing, then taking it to my wife, then the builder, then going back to the designer, then rinsing and repeating for however many iterations vs having my wife look over my shoulder, conferring with the builder on and off, then handing the best result to a designer to refine?Time.
The is very adamant that she doesn't want the half bath close to the living areas. To be graphic, nobody wants to have a guest taking a shit five feet from where you're eating or sitting on the couch. The hall outside of the kitchen isn't ideal, but it's better than that. I liked it in the front off of the foyer, but the builder balked because it makes the front door look funny being really close to the bump out wall there.Swap half bath and pantry areas and resize accordingly. Pantry would be just as usable to the kitchen, but half bath would be out closer to living area. You can use that same stack off the half bath for the shared bath upstairs.
It's grey water. It can drain off to grade for all I care. Hot & cold water are a minor issue in that regards.Laundry area is a miss. You really want all that plumbing on a bump out exterior wall?
That was the builder's suggestion as well. Again, the was very adamant that she didn't want the laundry in the master bedroom as kids & guests would have to come through the master to use it. I like the idea because it's primarily used for clothes and stuff fromthe master, but the has spoken.Plus you've got to walk through the whole house to wash your drawers, and the noise of those machines is straight into dining/living areas. Better off putting those in the huge wasted area you're now calling a master closet.
Yeah, that location is more of an afterthought. I'm not bothering drawing windows or really caring about the doors until I get the layout straight.Also center the French doors in dining area wall. That offset would bother the fawk outta me over time. Also look at using a sliding French doors for that area to free up floor space.
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So if you had an idea in mind for the house you want to build, you wouldn't sketch it first? You'd just verbally tell a designer how you want it and then just take what they give you?Will is his own worst enemy
No, you give the guy pieces of plans you do like and let him adapt those into an integrated design that also fits the site best. You're basing these sketches off how you lived in prior places, but there are more ways to accomplish your desires than you'll ever think of yourself. The more you pencil things out yourself, the more you'll convince yourself they need to be that way (pride of ownership) and refuse to consider better ways once the pros get involved.So if you had an idea in mind for the house you want to build, you wouldn't sketch it first? You'd just verbally tell a designer how you want it and then just take what they give you?
You're trying to come up with plans. And dont say you're not, because you are, and you're fighting with trying to make it work. That's the architect's job.So if you had an idea in mind for the house you want to build, you wouldn't sketch it first? You'd just verbally tell a designer how you want it and then just take what they give you?
That's what we did with the builder originally. We looked at several houses with him, showed him some things we liked and didn't like from various plans and our previous places, and came up with what we have now.No, you give the guy pieces of plans you do like and let him adapt those into an integrated design that also fits the site best.
I'm not married to anything I've drawn. I do have some very specific desires that we've hammered out and some parameters dictated by the lay of the building site and the budget. You may be mistaking my desire to take those things into consideration for being convinced that my sketch is "the way".You're basing these sketches off how you lived in prior places, but there are more ways to accomplish your desires than you'll ever think of yourself. The more you pencil things out yourself, the more you'll convince yourself they need to be that way (pride of ownership) and refuse to consider better ways once the pros get involved.
I'm completely open to ideas. Having certain things we like or don't like and an understanding of what the building site constraints are is something completely different.Start the process open to ideas, and don't lock yourself into a plan that nobody will be able to convince you doesn't work once it's set in your brain.
I'm not good with pencil and paper. I put things in CAD so that I can see how things look to scale and to see how moving things around really changes the layout. Nothing I sketch on paper would come anywhere close.You're trying to come up with plans. And dont say you're not, because you are, and you're fighting with trying to make it work. That's the architect's job.
You sketch things out with pencil on paper.... don't sweat the details...
Give them snippets of plans you like (magazines/books)... and of design elements you like or don't like... let them DO what they do.
With 7" on each side to spare.Will your 5 foot range fit there?
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